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and good evening from Philadelphia this

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is Frank here in James Hill minute from

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New York and this is a UFO News Network

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Sunday coming to you in an evening

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edition with something a little

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different for us a roundtable but we

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were able to get everybody on

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everybody's here check it in and James I

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will leave the intros to you all right

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thank you so this is basically a

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confirmation panel based on our Twitter

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circle we have a Twitter circle of some

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pretty serious researchers who tick

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around information ideas speculation and

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I mean we get into a pretty heavy and we

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trade a lot of great information make

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some good connections by working

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together so we're having this a

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confirmation Twitter circle panel I'm

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gonna let everybody do their own intro

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to introduce themselves because they can

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do it better than that to be honest all

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right and just because we've got a lot

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of people here I will get that the voice

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is straight James and I have the

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glorious East Coast accents and let's

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start it let's start with Jay because

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he's over in a good old England and I

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think you'll be able to recognize that

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that is his location as he introduces

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himself so I go Jay tell the folks all

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about yourself thank you very much I'm

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Jay otherwise known as Twitter user Jay

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my actual twitter handle is Jay zero

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nine seven eight four six nine one it's

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a bit of a mouthful just how it is I've

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kept it that way I quite like it

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it's a bit an ominous and I prefer to

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I engage with the community quite

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recently despite having been alert for

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many years and I made a little bit of a

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splash with the Chris Mellon leak so I

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found the documents in Chris Mullins

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website published them on Twitter and

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created a little bit of a storm there

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I've been researching all the scientific

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papers from needs and various different

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scientists involved in the subject

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fantastic and now let's go to the west

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of us so that we've already covered the

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east to the west of us we've got Danny

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Silva I'm so happy to be here with my

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friends

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this is amazing I'm a phenomena blogger

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UFO and related phenomena I'm from Texas

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and formerly with apfo net and I got a

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new website coming up it's called silver

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record Silv a record calm and I'm just

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passionate for searching for the truth

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and I'm super obsessed with to the Stars

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Academy a tip anything Bigelow anything

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related like that God and Joe merge

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you're joining us all the way from a Las

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Vegas Bob Bigelow stomping grounds

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thanks for joining us Joe oh thank you

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guys for doing this is good I'm really

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excited about this from New York been in

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Vegas for a while I'm in Houston for a

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long time shooting a reality show for

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Animal Planet and I have my Twitter

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handles UFO Joe won one and I have a

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website UFO Joe dotnet where I'm doing a

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lot of transcribing lately because I

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love to transcribe interviews and try to

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find out information that a lot of

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people may have missed and I'm obsessed

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with the subject fantastic so let's

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let's get things rolling how's the last

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year been for you pretty exciting or

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what for me for everybody yeah it's

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definitely exciting yeah I think since

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it's the initial announcements that we

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had last October for TTS a and then over

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to the video releases in December I

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think it's been incredible it's the

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reason why I interacted with the

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community last year has changed my life

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totally you know I always had beliefs

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about this kind of thing and then to

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hear it from actual government sources

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it was a shock to say the least and now

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thought I would be open to all this

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physics stuff portals and all these

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other things that I probably will

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mention right now but I I have a saying

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that and I think everything is real oh

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yeah and I mean one of the well I think

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biggest points of you know the I guess

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what we can consider what Bigelow had

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called years ago when he was on

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interview with George Knapp is

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confirmation and I mean right now it's

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apparent that we're in that stage the

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mainstream media is reporting on UFOs

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and you ApS and in a completely

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different manner than they have in many

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years in the past and an important thing

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that's going on right now that's part of

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this is actually not so much I mean

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there is a lot of stuff coming up now

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for sure but it's a lot of it this is

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base going back a few years ago and it's

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uncovering stuff that's been going on in

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the last two decades concerning the

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subject and the government's involvement

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in in the studies yeah it's one one

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aspect of it and you have skinwalker

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ranch and how I you know even me I had

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no idea that skinwalker ranch played

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such a critical role in the government's

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UFO study who would have thought right

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yeah I mean even that's incredible that

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skinwalker ranch was the impetus for

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awesome even no I think it was um either

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Korbel or Knapp who mentioned that a tip

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kinda was already there it has been

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there for years and it wasn't under or I

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mean he it's kind of confusing how he

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explains it I think he probably can't

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they average too much but he talks about

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how a tea tip was already kind of there

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there were people in different agencies

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trading informations and they have this

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entire database which is you know filled

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with all this information except it

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wasn't under the official ban or as far

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as he knows a tip but when wasit came

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around it kind of gave a tip the the

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green light to become an official

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program funded and organised in such a

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manner so long yeah for sure I think

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the initial announcement came out you

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documentation there's come from the

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group you know T TSA since Tom DeLonge

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set up this company we have all these

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different former government officials

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working for this or working for T TSA

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had this list of reports there's all

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kinds of stuff that they've been looking

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into you know things from communication

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wormholes I mean absolutely fascinating

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fascinating stuff and I really think the

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whole subject seems to be accelerating

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and becoming more mainstream and I think

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that's a really really important thing

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coming through from New York Times as

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from the Mellon's website you know we're

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finding documents presentations and

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stuff that were present from a tip and

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it's got some fascinating details and

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really really fascinating I'm really

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happy to see that we're finally getting

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these details through I'm coming to

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hoping at some point soon we'll get the

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best studies so we can have a look I

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where I should call you 20 years or Jay

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incredible stuff that's in there and has

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been available for a while though you

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it so I posted some of this stuff onto

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Twitter I think Danny contacted me off

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Twitter said you know this this stuff

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some point in the past I don't know when

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those kind of lines and it had all of

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these reports that were present and some

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fascinating really really incredible and

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it kind of changes the picture of how I

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know I don't see it's a nuts-and-bolts

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UFO thing where we've got these crafts

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coming from ZT Reticuli or whatever that

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might be the case as well like James you

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mentioned the past you think that that's

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that's probably a bit of the element too

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but it seems to be seems to be there's

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something more to it something a bit

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more esoteric almost like there's

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one and there's something sort of crypto

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terrestrial sort of element or some sort

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of intelligence that's part of that so

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that's the kind of bit that's really got

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these reports on the needs website their

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deal with consciousness and talk about

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this kind of subject you know there's

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some really fascinating stuff in there

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and then you kind of go back and you

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look to things like the mundus imagine

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Alamos so yeah it's been going going

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around for years really they're kind of

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oats or esoteric teachings but it's

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really good to see that kind of stuff

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being studied by these different types

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of groups yeah I think that you know as

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we go forward and the nature of the

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phenomenon is unveiled more and more and

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and it's mysterious nature you know I

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think that we're gonna see more of an

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interest in those kind of subjects and

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Jacques Vallee highlights that this

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phenomenon seems to have been with us

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and I think even George mentioned that

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the possibility of it being you know

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right here just we can't see it at times

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but when it wants to it could take on a

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on you know form in our reality and just

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in you know interact with us I think as

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he jokes it can come in and watch us

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when it wants to but yeah it's it's you

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know it's an incredible phenomenon and

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it's an incredible thing to explore kind

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of how it's really pushing the

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boundaries of what we think we know in

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science and and looking back at history

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and back to the nits that was really

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cool about it was you had comments from

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Bigelow on there and you had all these

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scientific papers everything's just

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seemed really open I would love for the

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website like that to be around these

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days but it seems like we probably won't

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get it because the information is a

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little bit more guarded but this

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everything was out there on the net site

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skinwalker ranch you know talking about

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their cattle mutilations it's got

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statistics it's got figures it's got all

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kinds of stuff in there you know got

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reports and consciousness studies we've

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got the traditional kind of UFO type

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papers oh yeah I mean it's incredible

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see it there and quite how it got maybe

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so overlooked at the time I don't know

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but it's incredible too

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it's a bill to access some of those

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reports as everyone had the chance to

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see the Jeremy's movie about yeah

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walkers yes

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yeah it's the thoughts I mean I I know I

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enjoyed it same here I like that the

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extras were great the nap interview is

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great it's good stuff and it's something

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that now we can talk to people that

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aren't interested in the subject and

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have them see it and they're gonna you

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know get a briefing on what was going on

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so I think that's important yeah I

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thought George was really the star of

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the show it was very interesting

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they interpolated some of the old tapes

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that he had together where he's doing a

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basically a straight narration and then

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other parts of the film he was sort of

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being a little bit more himself doing

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interviews and both naps did a very nice

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job in that movie yeah I watched it with

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some friends like a week ago and I you

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know they were not really interested but

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they're willing to watch it with me so

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my kid just give it a shot and they they

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loved the nap stuff they go he's just

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presented so clearly they really yeah I

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think the great thing was well for

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Korbel you know you see these interviews

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with him and this guy I can talk really

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coherent Lee about this stuff you know

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really really clearly yeah that's really

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fascinating to see I mean I read the

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book before I saw the film so I kind of

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knew what to expect I think a lot with

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the film but it was great definitely an

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enjoyable for them yeah and I put it out

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there on a platform where millions of

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people are gonna see and be introduced

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to it and you know even people that are

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just kind of looking oh wow that's

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paranormal kind of thing are gonna see

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how that this place in the study was

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tied into a UFO a government UFO program

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like what another another interesting

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fact is you know there were other people

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involved in skinwalker that that you

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know they haven't really been named yet

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as you know cuz nap-nap had said that

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there there were effects on the people

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who who had interactions at the ranch

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and mmm you know he didn't really go

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much further than that

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as to what kind of effects but there was

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somebody who studied the the people that

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were having the effects from skinwalker

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ranch for the past five years and I

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think if somebody we all know right and

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that's Gary he he was studying that the

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effects on the people that were you know

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having interactions at skinwalker ranch

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and and attracting these hitchhikers and

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you know they did all the scans and all

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that stuff and there were you know

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physical elements and effects from from

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the interactions at skinwalker did you

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hear that race where did you hear that

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James you have is like is there anything

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where online where they talk about that

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no maybe he'll talk about it sometime in

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the future but I you know I know it's

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okay that I can say it yeah good thanks

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and I think that there is some confusion

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too about where some of these things

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came from or where some of maybe the

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supposed effects came from whether it

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was strictly phenomena based or if it

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was you know weird testing by you know a

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government agency or something like that

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you know and that's kinda that's kind of

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still a question because the effects

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that the people had well there's there's

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two effects you know you had the

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hitch-hiker effect which people seem to

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be followed by a phenomenon exactly

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that's the weird part but the other was

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an electromagnetic effect on the brain

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which actually produced a white matter

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in the brain and lesions but yeah the

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the part about them being followed home

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and and the phenomenon interacting with

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individuals that's another story that's

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incest that's something else and then

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you have no sorry god no go ahead good

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and then I Gerry Jeremy Corbyn you know

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the new owner in the extras said that

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some of his personnel were sent to the

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hospital with life-threatening injuries

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and I tried to ask Jeremy about that and

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he said

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more think more like like a blood

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infection something that something that

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gets into the blood it's an infection in

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the whole body and it can it can kill

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you but he's never seen any evidence

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that you know that it was caused by

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phenomena and I tried that I asked him

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has the new owner showed you anything

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that backs it up I mean and it reven

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just showed that they actually were in

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the hospital is there any evidence any

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hospital records and they won't answer

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that question I don't know why if they

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don't want to ruffle them to the new

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owners feathers they just want to keep

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that relationship going but I have not

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gotten an answer from him or drawers on

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that yeah is interesting that Lou

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elizondo's education history as listed

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on to the stars Academy's website

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suggests that he's been studying

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parasitology which kind of fits in with

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the whole hitch-hiker

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hypothesis as well right it was

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something I picked up when I first

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looked at the website so when George

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Knapp was going to interview him I'll

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know what it did to ask him this

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question you know why'd you have that

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education history when you were studying

404
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this stuff within the Pentagon it seemed

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strange you know what I mean so I

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wondered whether or not there was a

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connection then it seems like it might

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there might be some sort of connection

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and there's been comments about the

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other to the Stars Academy guys help me

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out guys what are they they are like the

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bio well the guy who I find pretty

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interesting is the guy who keeps the

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lowest profile me he keeps a lower

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profile than Bigelow and that's a column

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Kelleher because he's on the to the

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stars Academy Board and he was also a

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key guy obviously at mids and was

419
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interviewed at least a little bit and

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that's the first I'd ever really seen of

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him he comes across as a an awfully nice

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guy but man it seemed quiet

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he doesn't talk much I met him at the

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premiere and I set up because I'm calm

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Kelleher I know who you are he goes who

426
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are you I don't like he goes I know that

427
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name I'm like now I say you don't know

428
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me I post stuff on Twitter you don't

429
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know who I am and then you got the two

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stars Academy what is it norm Cohn and

431
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he does all the the bio what is it bio

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weapons or I can't remember exactly but

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there's definitely a lot of different

434
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guys that do different things and you

435
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know I'd like to hear more about why

436
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there

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volved because we really 100% don't know

438
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yeah that is pretty strange yeah there's

439
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a kind of got a vast array of people I

440
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think there's some guy on there unless

441
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it on the website involved with some

442
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kind of neural research to Poole rap I

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think possibly yeah yeah so you know who

444
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knows why that stuff is there I mean

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right now you know the focus seems to be

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the atom project and the materials and

447
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you know they seem to be taking that

448
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pretty seriously and of course I think

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Dan you mentioned that not said

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something whose recent article about it

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about what I'm sorry cereals yeah that

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an atom project oh yeah yeah

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in the i-team recent I team story were

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they for yeah some can you hear me now

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yeah yeah okay Knapp said that we would

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be getting the round that this must be a

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mission I heard that was that last

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little bit I did yeah okay sorry

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yeah and of the i-team presentation the

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anniversary of to the Stars Academy he

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was saying that after the first of the

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year there will be a an atom project

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announcement I don't know if that means

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January but it's pretty promising and

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that goes along with what

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MUFON Robert Marsh or I think was Robert

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Marsh said Ye Lozano had told him so

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that's basically confirmation of that

469
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rumor now that they've got actually new

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samples as well right because when they

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had that original video that went online

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had the page there

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and they since blocked it out they've

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really uploaded the video so you can't

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see what's written on the page but had

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an early copy of that video and I must

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have write out all of the text and it

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refers to two different samples there's

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one that's called Ohio ed sample and

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there's Rendlesham forest sample so

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these are presumably to pre-existing

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samples that are present at earth Tech

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right so I don't know whether they're

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they're part of the atom project and

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they're just sort of included the

486
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original analyses from those projects

487
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whether or not all the samples in that

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all seven samples in you know I think

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that some of these pieces have been

490
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floating around and you know they have

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seven pieces and all and we also know

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that arts parts the magnesium business

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zinc piece as as part of this too so

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that that's that's three of the pieces

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right there I would expect some of the

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you batum of material might be in there

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as well that's that comes from a crash

498
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down in Brazil decades ago and that

499
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stuff has been floating around for quite

500
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some time and it's gotten some attention

501
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professor peter stork is somebody who

502
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has spent a lot of time i working on

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that stuff going back going back decades

504
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you probably wrote a paper i've got

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linked at my website that back in the

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very late 90s so this goes back aways of

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that this has been a phenomenon this

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have been part of the field it's kind of

509
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limited it doesn't have a lot of a

510
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material or a lot to talk about but

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obviously if you know you've got four

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scientists on the record that between

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nolan valet put off and start going that

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back in the day saying that they think

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they've got something got something

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unique here the two that i mentioned

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earlier i don't think i when you

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actually read through that report it

519
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sounds like they're terrestrial so i I

520
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hope I hope it's a no Ohio ed sample and

521
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Rendlesham sample I think from the

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description on that paper are completely

523
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terrestrial it seems to be you know when

524
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you read down about the different metals

525
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that are included and stuff like that it

526
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doesn't that I don't see anything on

527
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their isotopic ratios it sounds like

528
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there's nothing interesting about them

529
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but in the video again it shows an

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implant

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it's like a tube that's full of water

532
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and you see this piece of metal within

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that water and they've got a magnet

534
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along the side of it now I don't really

535
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know what the implants are for but if it

536
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works anything like terrestrial

537
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technology like we have now if you apply

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a magnet to something that has data on

539
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it us since you remove that tater from

540
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the device I hopefully the technology

541
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doesn't work in the same way otherwise

542
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it would have cranked it a lot you

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mentioned that magnetism and I do know

544
00:23:50,089 --> 00:23:47,279
one of the elements involved in the arts

545
00:23:53,690 --> 00:23:50,099
parts alloy is bismuth which is not an

546
00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:53,700
especially interesting component to an

547
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:55,950
alloy and that business is not very

548
00:24:00,759 --> 00:23:57,570
strong now the only thing that's really

549
00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:00,769
interesting about it is it is the most

550
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:04,169
diamagnetic metal on earth which means

551
00:24:10,749 --> 00:24:08,369
basically that it rather than attracting

552
00:24:13,639 --> 00:24:10,759
a metal of being a magnetic actually

553
00:24:15,529 --> 00:24:13,649
repels the metal which i think is kind

554
00:24:17,659 --> 00:24:15,539
of interesting possibly it might have

555
00:24:19,849 --> 00:24:17,669
something to do with propulsion maybe I

556
00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:19,859
don't know but it seems like it's too

557
00:24:24,739 --> 00:24:21,929
weak of metal to me to be part of any

558
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:24,749
kind of a structural metal like a part

559
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:26,700
of a frame part of a hull something

560
00:24:30,409 --> 00:24:29,039
along those lines might have something

561
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:30,419
to do with the propulsion that's said

562
00:24:36,109 --> 00:24:32,570
the only thing I can think of yeah

563
00:24:37,639 --> 00:24:36,119
Newseum is conductive nothing bismuth is

564
00:24:39,349 --> 00:24:37,649
non conductive or one of the least

565
00:24:41,619 --> 00:24:39,359
conductive metals so there seems to be

566
00:24:44,330 --> 00:24:41,629
almost like conflicting parts of them

567
00:24:47,149 --> 00:24:44,340
yeah and they said the that you know

568
00:24:50,089 --> 00:24:47,159
bismuth and magnesium I think shouldn't

569
00:24:51,769 --> 00:24:50,099
really mix that readily that the way

570
00:24:53,899 --> 00:24:51,779
that they're layered in that piece is

571
00:24:56,539 --> 00:24:53,909
part of the kind of strange thing about

572
00:25:01,099 --> 00:24:56,549
the piece thickness as well isn't it

573
00:25:04,009 --> 00:25:01,109
it's just a few microns thick and Linda

574
00:25:07,369 --> 00:25:04,019
Moulton Howe she has a whole you know

575
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,379
four-part presentation just on these on

576
00:25:13,729 --> 00:25:10,080
arts parts piece and she's explaining it

577
00:25:15,969 --> 00:25:13,739
and it's just incredibly you know like

578
00:25:19,489 --> 00:25:15,979
you said there's just a few microns

579
00:25:20,719 --> 00:25:19,499
thickness of one layer and then microns

580
00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:20,729
thickness of the next

581
00:25:28,999 --> 00:25:22,679
so it's you know either strange that

582
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:29,009
it's put like that my colleague oh my

583
00:25:33,139 --> 00:25:31,080
god regs he

584
00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:33,149
he is kind of a conspiracy theory well

585
00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:35,760
that is a that is Chris Wolford who was

586
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:37,950
supposed to be here today but I guess he

587
00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:39,809
got burned out from his a three hour

588
00:25:43,639 --> 00:25:41,580
marathon appearance on midnight in the

589
00:25:47,539 --> 00:25:43,649
desert Friday nights so he wasn't able

590
00:25:47,870 --> 00:25:47,549
to squeeze us in today no Dre oh I'm

591
00:25:52,970 --> 00:25:47,880
sorry

592
00:25:56,019 --> 00:25:52,980
anyway

593
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:56,029
yes that's Chris the homey Chris but um

594
00:25:59,389 --> 00:25:57,210
dregg's

595
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,399
he's a Twitter user you see him on there

596
00:26:03,259 --> 00:26:01,200
but he's a good friend of mine and this

597
00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:03,269
is a conspiracy theory but it did blow

598
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:05,190
me away just how simple it is is that

599
00:26:11,629 --> 00:26:09,120
you know if there is these metals and

600
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:11,639
they're in the government or in other

601
00:26:15,889 --> 00:26:14,250
places or other organizations where they

602
00:26:17,810 --> 00:26:15,899
don't want to release them the fact that

603
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,820
to the Stars Academy is accepting things

604
00:26:21,620 --> 00:26:19,919
now either and anonymously it is a

605
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:21,630
perfect way for some of this stuff to

606
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:29,630
come out yeah that is pretty interesting

607
00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:32,730
an interesting note - also is that um

608
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:34,760
Frank you mentioned the ubatuba piece

609
00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:39,450
which they you know Peter stock defined

610
00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:43,590
anomalies and but you know Gary Nolan

611
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,590
had also said that Jacques Vallee has

612
00:26:51,769 --> 00:26:49,200
other pieces that are quite older as

613
00:26:53,930 --> 00:26:51,779
well that are even more anomalous and

614
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:53,940
it's almost blatant that it's some kind

615
00:26:59,120 --> 00:26:57,480
of technology and I think there's going

616
00:27:06,919 --> 00:26:59,130
to be more coming in out on that

617
00:27:10,190 --> 00:27:06,929
sometime next year that's so exciting to

618
00:27:12,289 --> 00:27:10,200
me yeah it's fascinating I mean and you

619
00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:12,299
know it's to the Stars there's only you

620
00:27:16,009 --> 00:27:13,830
know one group doing this there's other

621
00:27:18,409 --> 00:27:16,019
groups you know like Jacques Vallee and

622
00:27:20,299 --> 00:27:18,419
knowing or working on these pieces and

623
00:27:21,950 --> 00:27:20,309
they're coming out with there's a film

624
00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:21,960
coming out they're the part in their

625
00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:26,460
film was only a like a section of the

626
00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:28,590
film it's a it's a bigger film but it's

627
00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:30,539
gonna feature their study of the

628
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:33,480
materials in the film and you know yeah

629
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:35,700
I guess Gary Nolan was able to build

630
00:27:42,860 --> 00:27:39,360
some kind of device in his lab that's

631
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:42,870
specifically me to work with you know

632
00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:44,910
cellular biology and that kind of stuff

633
00:27:51,430 --> 00:27:46,790
but it just so happens that the device

634
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:51,440
works very well analyzing materials wow

635
00:27:56,390 --> 00:27:54,570
that's uh and you know from what he says

636
00:27:59,690 --> 00:27:56,400
is that son you know some of the stuff

637
00:28:01,460 --> 00:27:59,700
is fascinating it's not just um you know

638
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:01,470
run-of-the-mill material that's all like

639
00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:02,910
this thing's strange he's saying that

640
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:05,760
some of the materials are pretty

641
00:28:13,550 --> 00:28:11,490
astounding well but also interesting

642
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:13,560
Noda on peter Sturrock you know he

643
00:28:17,150 --> 00:28:14,730
studied these materials

644
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:17,160
he was also I believe part of the

645
00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:19,050
Rockefeller initiative and he was also

646
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:23,880
consultant on knits you know that's it

647
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:26,130
he gets around he's he's been doing this

648
00:28:30,980 --> 00:28:28,650
for a long time and I had the chance to

649
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:30,990
interview him a few years back talking

650
00:28:36,650 --> 00:28:33,360
about radars being a physical evidence

651
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:36,660
for UFOs and that was a fun article to

652
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,520
write something I always thought it was

653
00:28:43,370 --> 00:28:40,620
nice to get a physicist like Sturrock

654
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:43,380
who was actually involved in developing

655
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:45,450
early radar systems during World War two

656
00:28:50,420 --> 00:28:46,770
back in his home country of England

657
00:28:52,850 --> 00:28:50,430
which you know let's not kid ourselves J

658
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:52,860
yeah thanks to radar that's what allowed

659
00:28:58,850 --> 00:28:56,490
your guy you guys to you know one the

660
00:29:03,010 --> 00:28:58,860
those Nazi planes were flying over and

661
00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:03,020
get up there and take care of them right

662
00:29:08,390 --> 00:29:06,900
for sure for the for the actual metals

663
00:29:10,340 --> 00:29:08,400
as well that it's quite interesting for

664
00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:10,350
a lot of this stuff there's papers now

665
00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:12,870
so we're going patents in the u.s. so in

666
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:15,390
your country where you actually layering

667
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,370
different types of metals it's either

668
00:29:22,190 --> 00:29:19,440
different metals or like a different

669
00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:22,200
type of material within the metals and

670
00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:23,960
there's part of these patents it says

671
00:29:29,210 --> 00:29:26,670
that if they radiate these materials

672
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:29,220
these meta materials with a terahertz

673
00:29:32,090 --> 00:29:31,170
frequency or a microwave frequency

674
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:32,100
depending on the type of material

675
00:29:37,820 --> 00:29:35,130
they're using it gives cloaking

676
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:37,830
abilities which is fascinating you know

677
00:29:42,020 --> 00:29:40,050
what I mean it's kind of suggesting what

678
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:42,030
these things do is they make the ship

679
00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:44,250
invisible somehow you know just

680
00:29:47,180 --> 00:29:45,750
mind-blowing incredible stuff and this

681
00:29:49,910 --> 00:29:47,190
stuff is just available you know you

682
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:49,920
look for it look for these patents and

683
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:51,120
you can kind of find this detail

684
00:29:58,100 --> 00:29:55,440
incredible stuff metamaterials being

685
00:29:59,300 --> 00:29:58,110
used right in aviation and things like

686
00:30:02,060 --> 00:29:59,310
that

687
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:02,070
and I've asked Jade this before too and

688
00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:03,360
I just I wish there was a way that we

689
00:30:07,910 --> 00:30:06,120
could know if it was extra-special

690
00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:07,920
metamaterials or kind of more normal

691
00:30:14,390 --> 00:30:10,760
ones when we're looking at some of these

692
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:14,400
reports and things like that I think

693
00:30:19,940 --> 00:30:17,310
anything that we manufacture on earth is

694
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:19,950
probably likely to be you know simpler

695
00:30:23,390 --> 00:30:22,110
than anything that we find as part of

696
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:23,400
any type of craft and it's going to be

697
00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:25,170
much more complex I think there were

698
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:26,310
suggestions that you're going to do it

699
00:30:29,150 --> 00:30:28,050
in the zero gravity not this kind of

700
00:30:30,770 --> 00:30:29,160
stuff you know who manufactured this

701
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:30,780
stuff but I don't I don't know too much

702
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:33,510
that's it and James was just talking

703
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:35,940
about that to where he pointed out in

704
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:38,970
that great great nap interview with

705
00:30:44,780 --> 00:30:41,460
phenomena radio at the end that they

706
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:44,790
were saying that the big low but is it

707
00:30:54,350 --> 00:30:48,210
the space the inflatable space station

708
00:30:55,730 --> 00:30:54,360
or yeah and they may be used and for to

709
00:30:57,950 --> 00:30:55,740
manufacture some of these meta materials

710
00:30:59,870 --> 00:30:57,960
in a zero-gravity which seems to be the

711
00:31:01,250 --> 00:30:59,880
case for some of the special

712
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:01,260
metamaterials at least it's been

713
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:05,370
theorized yeah I mean it seems that what

714
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:07,380
Big Oil wants to do do is take you know

715
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:09,690
let's just say you know we speculate

716
00:31:15,410 --> 00:31:13,170
that there there is a clandestine on the

717
00:31:17,930 --> 00:31:15,420
unacknowledged special access program

718
00:31:20,780 --> 00:31:17,940
that that can create these materials and

719
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:20,790
wherever they you know do that if that's

720
00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:23,250
even possible that that what big ol

721
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:24,660
wants to do is bring it out to the white

722
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:28,590
world and do that publicly sometime in

723
00:31:32,270 --> 00:31:30,930
the future or at least you know create

724
00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:32,280
the environment where people will be

725
00:31:36,530 --> 00:31:35,100
able to have a space station and work

726
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:36,540
out there and maybe possibly develop

727
00:31:47,230 --> 00:31:44,370
materials so yeah that's a you know

728
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:47,240
that's pretty that's a pretty big order

729
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:50,880
about Bigelow you know from some of the

730
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:54,450
comments that Knapp made he almost made

731
00:32:00,740 --> 00:31:58,410
it sound like Bigelow is not working

732
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:00,750
specifically on this anymore after that

733
00:32:06,530 --> 00:32:05,010
contract ended with was awesome that

734
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:06,540
when the with a project was can

735
00:32:12,499 --> 00:32:08,970
basically when the funding was cold

736
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:12,509
because people were

737
00:32:17,389 --> 00:32:15,089
that you know by studying this that

738
00:32:18,949 --> 00:32:17,399
they're messing with demons and and also

739
00:32:19,879 --> 00:32:18,959
if the public found out that the

740
00:32:21,619 --> 00:32:19,889
government you as government was

741
00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:21,629
studying this it would be an

742
00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:22,440
embarrassment

743
00:32:25,879 --> 00:32:23,820
yeah that's one of the things that Knapp

744
00:32:29,209 --> 00:32:25,889
talked about as well I heard that from

745
00:32:31,369 --> 00:32:29,219
my sources you know that biggest problem

746
00:32:33,469 --> 00:32:31,379
he probably is still doing things but

747
00:32:35,629 --> 00:32:33,479
he's definitely doing it a lot more

748
00:32:36,979 --> 00:32:35,639
reserved and the fact that you have

749
00:32:39,769 --> 00:32:36,989
contracts with NASA

750
00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:39,779
it just doesn't bode well with those

751
00:32:45,739 --> 00:32:43,139
guys when you're going full-bore on on

752
00:32:47,059 --> 00:32:45,749
UFO stuff at least publicly so he kind

753
00:32:49,099 --> 00:32:47,069
of probably had to back off a little bit

754
00:32:50,959 --> 00:32:49,109
but I'm sure he's still doing some

755
00:32:53,259 --> 00:32:50,969
things behind the scenes though I mean

756
00:32:55,189 --> 00:32:53,269
that guy the guy who's now managing

757
00:32:56,779 --> 00:32:55,199
adamantium is that how you say it

758
00:32:58,189 --> 00:32:56,789
Thomas I think his name is Thomas

759
00:32:58,699 --> 00:32:58,199
Edgerton you guys know what who I'm

760
00:33:01,879 --> 00:32:58,709
talking about

761
00:33:04,189 --> 00:33:01,889
winters maybe Winterton Winterton and he

762
00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:04,199
was at that meeting in the public city

763
00:33:09,019 --> 00:33:06,119
council meeting he said he brought on a

764
00:33:10,579 --> 00:33:09,029
new person so it's it's clear he didn't

765
00:33:14,029 --> 00:33:10,589
you know he purposely used the words

766
00:33:15,409 --> 00:33:14,039
Bigelow on a new person and they asked

767
00:33:16,879 --> 00:33:15,419
him could you clarify and get the

768
00:33:18,409 --> 00:33:16,889
reporter called him up he's like I stick

769
00:33:20,329 --> 00:33:18,419
I stand by my I don't wanna comment but

770
00:33:21,619 --> 00:33:20,339
I stand by what I said so I wouldn't be

771
00:33:23,329 --> 00:33:21,629
surprised if he's in the background and

772
00:33:24,769 --> 00:33:23,339
I'm that's I'm happy with that let him

773
00:33:26,269 --> 00:33:24,779
let him stay in the background doesn't

774
00:33:28,579 --> 00:33:26,279
bother me if you want if he needs to do

775
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:28,589
that to keep his NASA work going I mean

776
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:30,569
that's fine with me I mean I know people

777
00:33:35,809 --> 00:33:32,609
are upset that trying to make it a big

778
00:33:37,879 --> 00:33:35,819
deal I'm curious about it but you know

779
00:33:40,339 --> 00:33:37,889
it's an important thing I think what

780
00:33:41,989 --> 00:33:40,349
he's doing is incredible ya know I think

781
00:33:43,969 --> 00:33:41,999
Bigelow's really pushed this whole thing

782
00:33:45,469 --> 00:33:43,979
forwards I think without Bigelow none of

783
00:33:48,739 --> 00:33:45,479
this stuff would have happened it's my

784
00:33:52,819 --> 00:33:48,749
view yeah let certainly a lot of it I

785
00:33:54,379 --> 00:33:52,829
mean back you know he went on the show

786
00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:54,389
with George Knapp and and he talked

787
00:33:58,309 --> 00:33:56,609
about confirmation and he was kind of

788
00:34:00,139 --> 00:33:58,319
hinting at this as George said back then

789
00:34:01,969 --> 00:34:00,149
of some of the stuff that he was doing

790
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:01,979
in his head he had a partner in this and

791
00:34:05,479 --> 00:34:03,809
he where he was actually talking with

792
00:34:08,180 --> 00:34:05,489
the US government but he couldn't say it

793
00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:08,190
yeah but I mean other than that we you

794
00:34:11,779 --> 00:34:09,929
know he you know people had only heard

795
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,789
speculation of Bigelow putting money

796
00:34:17,509 --> 00:34:14,639
here trying to get involved here but he

797
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,519
you know he has done quite a lot where

798
00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:19,679
he initially funded the skinwalker ranch

799
00:34:25,010 --> 00:34:23,700
stuff right which later went through to

800
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:25,020
to fast

801
00:34:29,869 --> 00:34:27,510
so yeah so he's from here quietly at

802
00:34:34,369 --> 00:34:29,879
first yeah well yeah he owned the place

803
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:34,379
for a little bit there yeah yeah donated

804
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:36,090
five million dollars to consciousness

805
00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:39,419
style is that new and LV and mas yes so

806
00:34:44,090 --> 00:34:41,700
I mean it's a nice little chunk of

807
00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:44,100
change to be studying consciousness yeah

808
00:34:47,419 --> 00:34:45,780
yeah well I think it's a really

809
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:47,429
important thing that's that that's the

810
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:49,050
difficult part for me you know when I

811
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,850
read through all of those stuff those

812
00:34:54,530 --> 00:34:52,800
reports that he had on the NIT website

813
00:34:56,540 --> 00:34:54,540
and loads of this stuff that I found

814
00:34:59,450 --> 00:34:56,550
recently I just think it's absolutely

815
00:35:02,030 --> 00:34:59,460
key to all of this stuff it seems to be

816
00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:02,040
something like you know if you get

817
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:03,660
yourself into a kind of trance like

818
00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:05,790
state you're able to sort of get

819
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:07,830
yourself almost involved with some other

820
00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:09,750
type of reality to a certain extent you

821
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,580
know like shamanic shamanic initiation

822
00:35:15,859 --> 00:35:13,680
and all this kind of stuff you know the

823
00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:15,869
drumming you know they're able to push

824
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:17,550
themselves through to these different

825
00:35:22,490 --> 00:35:20,160
what's these different states you know

826
00:35:24,290 --> 00:35:22,500
these shamans when they're drama they

827
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:24,300
talked about essentially remote viewing

828
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:26,010
for for years and years and years you

829
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:27,030
know it's just I certainly got

830
00:35:32,030 --> 00:35:29,460
overlooked by Western cultures because

831
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:32,040
we just you know we've looked at it from

832
00:35:34,730 --> 00:35:33,480
a totally different perspective we

833
00:35:35,570 --> 00:35:34,740
dissolve or we can't measure this

834
00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:35,580
objectively

835
00:35:40,820 --> 00:35:38,280
so therefore it's false but it seems

836
00:35:43,310 --> 00:35:40,830
like Western culture is almost catching

837
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:43,320
up with some of these these old

838
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:44,970
traditional beliefs and it you know

839
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:48,240
there seems to be something in it yeah I

840
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:50,250
think that you know consciousness is

841
00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:51,960
definitely at the core of this you know

842
00:35:57,290 --> 00:35:55,140
grant Cameron he goes into that and he

843
00:35:59,900 --> 00:35:57,300
has some other people dr. Steven Greer

844
00:36:02,570 --> 00:35:59,910
he touches on that a lot and especially

845
00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:02,580
how the phenomenon and even the

846
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:04,440
phenomenon if they're using technology

847
00:36:08,690 --> 00:36:06,930
that's the best way we can describe it

848
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:08,700
which it seems when you know these

849
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:10,800
materials are found and you know they're

850
00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:14,630
being tracked but that their technology

851
00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:18,420
interfaces with consciousness and so

852
00:36:22,660 --> 00:36:20,190
consciousness is a huge part of this and

853
00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:22,670
and you know Jay you had mentioned that

854
00:36:27,650 --> 00:36:25,260
there's papers talking about you know

855
00:36:31,070 --> 00:36:27,660
brain technology interface or something

856
00:36:34,130 --> 00:36:31,080
right yeah all kinds of stuff yet so you

857
00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:34,140
can so that was written into a fire

858
00:36:38,210 --> 00:36:36,420
within the most recent book by date

859
00:36:38,740 --> 00:36:38,220
Hartley and he was talking about brain

860
00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:38,750
machine and

861
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:41,000
faces in that book and that seems to be

862
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:42,290
something that is actually there's

863
00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:43,490
patents for it you know we've got

864
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:45,470
research papers about it so it's

865
00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:47,090
something that's happening and they're

866
00:36:49,930 --> 00:36:48,020
saying it's gonna be happening in

867
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:49,940
something like 2040 as part of these

868
00:36:54,070 --> 00:36:52,250
papers but who knows you know maybe some

869
00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:54,080
of the stuff is available now but it's

870
00:36:57,010 --> 00:36:55,430
the consciousness stuff again that

871
00:36:59,950 --> 00:36:57,020
really interests me and if we look at

872
00:37:03,070 --> 00:36:59,960
stuff like Peter Levin ders book so I

873
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:03,080
think the first book was gods right it's

874
00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:04,730
kind of all relates back do you know

875
00:37:08,170 --> 00:37:06,380
what I mean it's all of these historical

876
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:08,180
religions seem to sort of came back into

877
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:10,490
these different conscious states and

878
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:12,170
people's view of these spirits

879
00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:14,530
malevolent or benevolent whatever it is

880
00:37:18,190 --> 00:37:16,700
there seems to be some sort of tying

881
00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:18,200
well there seems to be some sort of

882
00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:19,700
thread between all of these types of

883
00:37:23,890 --> 00:37:21,500
things or even the esoteric religions in

884
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:23,900
them or Shaymin isn't or whatever it is

885
00:37:27,820 --> 00:37:25,250
there seems to be some sort of thread

886
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:27,830
that ties it all together and ufology

887
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:30,050
and consciousness and science and you

888
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:31,760
know all of these things they they tie

889
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:34,010
together in a circle it's just just

890
00:37:37,540 --> 00:37:35,450
going to work it all out you know what I

891
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:37,550
mean and that's that's kind of the view

892
00:37:40,270 --> 00:37:38,810
that I'm going with this there seems to

893
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:40,280
be some sort of connection between all

894
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:42,980
or even human experience you know a lot

895
00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:44,810
of normal Asst experiences you know

896
00:37:49,810 --> 00:37:46,760
we're capable of so much more than we

897
00:37:53,290 --> 00:37:49,820
really realize and that kind of stuff is

898
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:53,300
starting to be looked into by different

899
00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:55,280
scientific groups again started at the

900
00:37:59,170 --> 00:37:56,990
beginning at the beginning of the twenty

901
00:38:02,500 --> 00:37:59,180
20th century and then kind of tapered

902
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:02,510
off it seems to be picking up again you

903
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:03,650
know hundred years later we're actually

904
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:04,850
starting to look at it properly again

905
00:38:10,270 --> 00:38:07,310
which is fascinating it was that yeah

906
00:38:13,060 --> 00:38:10,280
going back to the 1930s you had Upton

907
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:13,070
Sinclair the very famous author of books

908
00:38:19,450 --> 00:38:16,810
like it can't happen here getting into

909
00:38:22,750 --> 00:38:19,460
psychic research and he'd written a book

910
00:38:24,730 --> 00:38:22,760
called a mental radio that the board was

911
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,740
actually written for that book by none

912
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:27,440
other than Albert Albert Einstein so oh

913
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:30,440
wow this this goes this kind of study

914
00:38:35,470 --> 00:38:32,750
goes back quite some ways and obviously

915
00:38:38,110 --> 00:38:35,480
the history of it that was followed

916
00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:38,120
through and ultimately led to the remote

917
00:38:42,850 --> 00:38:40,790
viewing project which also is a little

918
00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:42,860
bit too intertwined with all this UFO

919
00:38:48,340 --> 00:38:45,470
stuff yeah absolutely

920
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:48,350
even things like idealism so different

921
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:51,470
philosophies state that mind is

922
00:38:54,190 --> 00:38:52,490
fundamental Marlon

923
00:38:56,170 --> 00:38:54,200
comes prior to matter I mean I don't

924
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:56,180
know whether this is true but it's been

925
00:38:58,990 --> 00:38:57,170
something that's been taught for

926
00:39:02,020 --> 00:38:59,000
thousands of years but different mystery

927
00:39:03,580 --> 00:39:02,030
schools or you know different esoteric

928
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:03,590
religions all of this kind of stuff they

929
00:39:08,050 --> 00:39:05,630
all kind of go with this principle first

930
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,060
that your mind your consciousness your

931
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:10,160
sense of self comes before anything else

932
00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:11,690
that you see and you're kind of

933
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:14,270
manifesting that to some extent it might

934
00:39:17,950 --> 00:39:15,830
be a battle of wills with you with

935
00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:17,960
versus everybody else you know choosing

936
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:19,880
how things are all that kind of stuff

937
00:39:24,490 --> 00:39:22,850
but you know I don't know whether it

938
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:24,500
there's anything really in it but it's

939
00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:26,690
quite an interesting way of looking at

940
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:30,590
the issue I think well everything we're

941
00:39:35,140 --> 00:39:32,330
using to get the show on the road today

942
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:35,150
whether it's a Skype or the software I

943
00:39:39,340 --> 00:39:37,010
used to do the upload or the site like

944
00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:39,350
YouTube or the the Twitter site that we

945
00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:42,710
all use or Facebook which we most most

946
00:39:50,530 --> 00:39:47,660
of us use anyway that that is all how

947
00:39:52,540 --> 00:39:50,540
can I say it it all began with an idea

948
00:39:54,940 --> 00:39:52,550
it all began with an idea before it

949
00:39:56,770 --> 00:39:54,950
became manifest so that's what we need

950
00:40:01,930 --> 00:39:56,780
more of here on this planet some more

951
00:40:03,370 --> 00:40:01,940
good ideas yes and you know what's funny

952
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:03,380
about you're talking about the internet

953
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:05,450
it just can't oh my in my mind is that

954
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:08,000
when Jacques velay helped developed

955
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:11,930
ARPANET and that was that project was

956
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:13,850
actually you know which was the

957
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:15,910
predecessor I guess to the Internet and

958
00:40:21,630 --> 00:40:18,770
and the whole concept behind that is a

959
00:40:24,010 --> 00:40:21,640
way to manifest the mind beyond the body

960
00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:24,020
that's it that's actually was the you

961
00:40:28,330 --> 00:40:26,060
know the foundation of that the you know

962
00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:28,340
the thing to be able to interface with

963
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:34,070
your mind out there in a way well the

964
00:40:39,490 --> 00:40:37,250
the interaction with technology and our

965
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:39,500
and being ascension to our mind but yeah

966
00:40:43,690 --> 00:40:41,230
Jacques Roy he was involved with the

967
00:40:45,790 --> 00:40:43,700
earlier moon program before team

968
00:40:48,490 --> 00:40:45,800
classified because then I guess who's

969
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:48,500
who's you know he was in a US citizen so

970
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:50,810
he wasn't allowed to be properly

971
00:40:54,070 --> 00:40:52,490
involved in the program you know who

972
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:54,080
knows if he really was afterwards or not

973
00:40:58,990 --> 00:40:56,810
but he was involved in that as well but

974
00:41:01,210 --> 00:40:59,000
the whole consciousness thing you know

975
00:41:03,310 --> 00:41:01,220
it was considered I guess now what

976
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:03,320
they're calling is phenom phenomenons II

977
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:06,050
and that's the study of phenomena

978
00:41:14,830 --> 00:41:10,250
and you know the science attitude we had

979
00:41:16,990 --> 00:41:14,840
that CIA paper called mental what it was

980
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:17,000
a called an almost mental phenomena it

981
00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:21,430
was a CIA paper that was done by SDI and

982
00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:25,360
I mean that's you know that's a 400 page

983
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:29,030
paper discussing you know an almost

984
00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:39,730
you know what I mean you know it's

985
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,060
fascinating it kind of blows your mind

986
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:43,520
really when you think about it and

987
00:41:47,650 --> 00:41:44,930
there's so much you know I've got this

988
00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:47,660
book varieties and anomalous experience

989
00:41:51,070 --> 00:41:49,430
there goes these different chapters on

990
00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:51,080
these different types of experiences you

991
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:53,420
could have I don't think anybody or

992
00:41:57,070 --> 00:41:55,250
everybody can have all every one of them

993
00:41:58,810 --> 00:41:57,080
but you know this these there's this

994
00:42:00,880 --> 00:41:58,820
potential that we've but you know we

995
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:00,890
might have that I think over the next

996
00:42:04,780 --> 00:42:03,680
few years we might bear to look into a

997
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:04,790
little bit more and hopefully get some

998
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:06,710
science proper scientific research and

999
00:42:12,250 --> 00:42:08,930
objective reviews of some of this stuff

1000
00:42:17,050 --> 00:42:12,260
so we can yes start to prove it and a

1001
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:17,060
more realistic yeah and being able to

1002
00:42:21,970 --> 00:42:19,130
maybe measure in some way or even just

1003
00:42:25,330 --> 00:42:21,980
to detect it would be a huge headway and

1004
00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:25,340
you know in the ancient you were talking

1005
00:42:28,690 --> 00:42:27,140
about the other you know ancient

1006
00:42:29,710 --> 00:42:28,700
traditions are talking about the stuff

1007
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:29,720
the old traditions you know like

1008
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:32,930
Buddhism and the Vedic kind of old

1009
00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:35,090
Eastern literature is all talking about

1010
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:37,670
consciousness pre-meeting matter that

1011
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:39,890
consciousness is the the blueprint of

1012
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:42,170
the universe and matter is basically

1013
00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:44,450
built on top of it manifest out of it

1014
00:42:48,940 --> 00:42:46,340
and who knows if that's true

1015
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:48,950
who knows that that's partially true but

1016
00:42:55,230 --> 00:42:52,010
getting to the science and being able to

1017
00:42:58,500 --> 00:42:55,240
detect this you know that's kind of what

1018
00:43:01,830 --> 00:42:58,510
Gary Nolan is doing with the antenna is

1019
00:43:05,590 --> 00:43:01,840
being able to basically identify

1020
00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:05,600
physically identify the the intuitive

1021
00:43:14,620 --> 00:43:10,190
process in in the human mind you know

1022
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:14,630
which God what was the put off quote

1023
00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:17,210
about the I think it was about remote

1024
00:43:20,020 --> 00:43:18,740
viewing or something like that that you

1025
00:43:21,940 --> 00:43:20,030
know the sceptics they're looking

1026
00:43:23,650 --> 00:43:21,950
five percent of it that's been

1027
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:23,660
Declassified and there's like this other

1028
00:43:28,660 --> 00:43:26,090
95 percent that's classified that they

1029
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:28,670
don't get to see so it's pretty it was a

1030
00:43:32,650 --> 00:43:31,040
pretty telling comment for me oh yeah

1031
00:43:34,660 --> 00:43:32,660
there's some stuff there's some comments

1032
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:34,670
that people make that's like oh man I

1033
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,010
mean you know I wish I could really go

1034
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:38,960
look at the books and see some of the

1035
00:43:41,980 --> 00:43:40,370
classified information on this stuff

1036
00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:41,990
it's just you know to know what they

1037
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:43,700
know no I know

1038
00:43:47,740 --> 00:43:45,650
Auri Geller gets a lot of flack but for

1039
00:43:50,050 --> 00:43:47,750
the CIA to have had him draw those

1040
00:43:51,610 --> 00:43:50,060
pictures I don't know if you guys have

1041
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:51,620
seen him it's like the grapes he drew

1042
00:43:56,410 --> 00:43:53,930
the grapes perfectly and all these other

1043
00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:56,420
pictures like I can't discount that this

1044
00:44:01,540 --> 00:43:58,250
is another thing that I just started you

1045
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:01,550
know realizing his real last year yeah

1046
00:44:07,540 --> 00:44:06,170
it's real yeah I just linked to that

1047
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:07,550
video because I've watched that several

1048
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:10,130
times the film back at s RI when put off

1049
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:14,570
and and who's Russell Targ we're testing

1050
00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:17,110
him and of course you know it's like I

1051
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:20,030
can't the skeptics are saying that this

1052
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:21,530
you know he either had something in his

1053
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:23,450
tooth somebody was feeding information

1054
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:25,520
there was stuff he was doing I can't

1055
00:44:30,430 --> 00:44:28,370
explain like the way he would cheat to

1056
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:30,440
get information he was amazing I've

1057
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:31,970
never seen any way that accurate I've

1058
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:34,160
seen people do that before but he was so

1059
00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:36,290
accurate I mean in I got a 20 tries

1060
00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:38,390
maybe 17 he tried to guess it and he

1061
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:40,700
nailed it there was one where they they

1062
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:42,530
would take a dice and they shake the box

1063
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:44,720
and then he with that what the Box

1064
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:46,760
closed he'd have to guess which died you

1065
00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:48,410
know would had to fall on and he the

1066
00:44:53,050 --> 00:44:50,390
ones that he guessed he nailed it so

1067
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:53,060
it's like I seen no way that he could

1068
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:55,160
have cheated doing that and as far as

1069
00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:56,690
the spoon bending I don't know because

1070
00:45:01,360 --> 00:44:58,490
he's always holding usually holding a

1071
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:01,370
spoon but he's another one that he may

1072
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:03,650
have had his really strong abilities

1073
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:04,850
back when he was younger and then when

1074
00:45:08,110 --> 00:45:06,710
he get older it might have waned a

1075
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:08,120
little bit and maybe he cheated on some

1076
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:09,410
stuff because there's some stuff where

1077
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:10,910
he may have cheated on so it kind of

1078
00:45:14,590 --> 00:45:12,710
throws everything until you know that

1079
00:45:16,270 --> 00:45:14,600
the skeptical like well he cheated you

1080
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:16,280
know he cheated here so he was a fraud

1081
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,170
and like no it's not that simple

1082
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:20,720
yeah I don't think he was going in and

1083
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:23,810
and and duping the CIA and and some of

1084
00:45:27,490 --> 00:45:25,610
these bright scientists like they didn't

1085
00:45:29,530 --> 00:45:27,500
anticipate he might try to trick them

1086
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:29,540
well they said you know they were they

1087
00:45:33,490 --> 00:45:32,210
were saying that put off and and Targ

1088
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:33,500
just had never had

1089
00:45:36,940 --> 00:45:35,450
perience with live humans doing that

1090
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,950
kind of study so that's why they just

1091
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,480
weren't ready for whatever tricks he

1092
00:45:42,310 --> 00:45:40,400
could pull in that's why Randy got in

1093
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:42,320
and he was a magician and he warned

1094
00:45:46,210 --> 00:45:43,850
people this is what you have to look for

1095
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:46,220
but we know we all know about Randy yeah

1096
00:45:52,590 --> 00:45:49,850
yeah but you know Jacques delay he also

1097
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:52,600
relates a story when he they they were

1098
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:55,910
going out for lunch and or they went in

1099
00:46:00,850 --> 00:45:59,210
the cafeteria for lunch and SR I and you

1100
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:00,860
know they've just finished doing their

1101
00:46:05,290 --> 00:46:04,010
experiments and out of nowhere Jacques

1102
00:46:07,150 --> 00:46:05,300
was like hey look you know it's do an

1103
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:07,160
experiment and they just did one off the

1104
00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:10,160
top of the head you know and he knocked

1105
00:46:13,810 --> 00:46:12,470
away he actually he said you know I'm

1106
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:13,820
gonna try to trick this guy basically

1107
00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:19,070
and he picked two targets and and sure

1108
00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:21,980
enough he the guy you're a Yeller he he

1109
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:23,270
said this is what I'm getting he drew

1110
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:25,760
the two different things and you know he

1111
00:46:29,290 --> 00:46:27,770
was even amazed you know who could have

1112
00:46:32,620 --> 00:46:29,300
anticipated that he was gonna choose two

1113
00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:32,630
things instead of one yeah so that's

1114
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:34,430
interesting stuff you know that's

1115
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:36,290
hopefully we have more answers on that

1116
00:46:39,820 --> 00:46:38,690
kind of stuff in the future and you know

1117
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:39,830
the other thing the remote viewing

1118
00:46:45,340 --> 00:46:43,430
program was it was the programming

1119
00:46:47,470 --> 00:46:45,350
funding was killed the same similar

1120
00:46:49,060 --> 00:46:47,480
reasons they claimed it didn't work and

1121
00:46:50,350 --> 00:46:49,070
it was the people religious people

1122
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,360
within the government at the time they

1123
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:52,640
thought it was all the psychic stuff was

1124
00:46:56,260 --> 00:46:54,350
of the devil so they killed it so it's

1125
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,270
the same people doing the same things

1126
00:47:02,020 --> 00:46:58,160
with a tip nowadays so they've been

1127
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:02,030
around for a long time and recently Napa

1128
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:04,910
in the phenomena radio interview said

1129
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:07,280
that he thinks the story of them Harry

1130
00:47:11,890 --> 00:47:09,290
Reid will come out about what he did

1131
00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:11,900
behind the scenes as well as the names

1132
00:47:16,450 --> 00:47:14,270
of some of these haters basically in the

1133
00:47:18,730 --> 00:47:16,460
government so I hope that'll be a huge

1134
00:47:20,590 --> 00:47:18,740
that'll be a huge deal and that's

1135
00:47:22,570 --> 00:47:20,600
another reason why I just thought it

1136
00:47:25,090 --> 00:47:22,580
should be moved more to that at the

1137
00:47:26,890 --> 00:47:25,100
private sector too because you wouldn't

1138
00:47:29,370 --> 00:47:26,900
run into that sort of thing in the

1139
00:47:32,110 --> 00:47:29,380
private sector with religious types

1140
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:32,120
interjecting at their own beliefs onto

1141
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,410
something that needs a closer walk

1142
00:47:38,590 --> 00:47:37,520
definitely I think you tied you right

1143
00:47:40,270 --> 00:47:38,600
Frank I think the only reason we're

1144
00:47:42,490 --> 00:47:40,280
gonna get this information out at all is

1145
00:47:43,990 --> 00:47:42,500
through private industry I'm all for

1146
00:47:45,220 --> 00:47:44,000
public as well to know what I mean you

1147
00:47:46,270 --> 00:47:45,230
know I think everything should state you

1148
00:47:47,140 --> 00:47:46,280
know schools and all that and stuff

1149
00:47:48,340 --> 00:47:47,150
should be public

1150
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:48,350
but you know when it comes to the

1151
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:50,240
analysis of these materials it's really

1152
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,940
important it gets done privately so that

1153
00:47:56,620 --> 00:47:55,040
the information can be given out you

1154
00:47:58,240 --> 00:47:56,630
know without it being kind of restricted

1155
00:47:59,620 --> 00:47:58,250
and confidential all this kind of stuff

1156
00:48:02,350 --> 00:47:59,630
it's really really important that it

1157
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:02,360
comes out that way but quite how far

1158
00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:04,490
behind we are the private industry

1159
00:48:13,240 --> 00:48:07,880
compared to black budgets or whatever

1160
00:48:15,070 --> 00:48:13,250
else I guess is the real question yeah

1161
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:15,080
yes it would take a lot of funding to do

1162
00:48:20,590 --> 00:48:16,730
it in the private industry can just get

1163
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:20,600
defense or government money but and you

1164
00:48:23,590 --> 00:48:21,890
know I will be screwed with the foyers

1165
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:23,600
so the FOIA guys will go now just but

1166
00:48:29,530 --> 00:48:28,160
hey it's better than nothing and and and

1167
00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:29,540
you know with the FOIA is it doesn't

1168
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:31,430
necessarily work how you know how

1169
00:48:34,690 --> 00:48:33,110
everybody thinks it does I mean even if

1170
00:48:36,910 --> 00:48:34,700
they're an expert on it there's some

1171
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:36,920
stuff that you can just not get through

1172
00:48:38,910 --> 00:48:38,240
the Freedom of Information it won't come

1173
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:38,920
out

1174
00:48:49,060 --> 00:48:45,920
there was some kind of crazy major you

1175
00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:49,070
um you know us you will fall event that

1176
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:50,870
the government just saw it was too

1177
00:48:54,490 --> 00:48:52,610
secret and classified you can do all the

1178
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:54,500
floors you want it's not come yet yeah

1179
00:48:58,090 --> 00:48:56,090
it's just a question of adding for you

1180
00:49:00,210 --> 00:48:58,100
exempt to something is it not a that's

1181
00:49:02,830 --> 00:49:00,220
my exact yeah exactly

1182
00:49:05,380 --> 00:49:02,840
for whatever they want to withhold it

1183
00:49:07,810 --> 00:49:05,390
because they think it might they can you

1184
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:07,820
know they can interpret it as being a

1185
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:10,130
threat to national security by being put

1186
00:49:13,330 --> 00:49:11,210
out there because of methods and

1187
00:49:15,250 --> 00:49:13,340
information other kind of sources and

1188
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:15,260
things that they're not gonna put it out

1189
00:49:24,780 --> 00:49:20,690
there but you know what is encouraging

1190
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:24,790
is that you know Knapp said that these

1191
00:49:30,510 --> 00:49:27,890
you know behind closed door briefings

1192
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:30,520
that are taking place in Washington

1193
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:33,680
could you know potentially open up

1194
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:36,050
another program yeah I see yeah name

1195
00:49:40,270 --> 00:49:38,480
I'll run this by everybody see if there

1196
00:49:43,150 --> 00:49:40,280
they've got anything more on this than I

1197
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:43,160
do a name a Kirk McConnell as a staffer

1198
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:44,930
on one of the Senate committees that

1199
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:46,880
might be taking a closer look at this

1200
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:49,610
anybody here this guy yet yeah he's the

1201
00:49:54,730 --> 00:49:52,370
one that wrote the tic-tac witness I

1202
00:49:55,870 --> 00:49:54,740
won't name him because I mean we all

1203
00:49:57,970 --> 00:49:55,880
know who he is but he's the one who

1204
00:49:59,290 --> 00:49:57,980
wrote him and said you know we'd like to

1205
00:50:00,910 --> 00:49:59,300
meet with you in Washington we've

1206
00:50:02,890 --> 00:50:00,920
already interviewed some of the pilots

1207
00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:02,900
tic-tac case so he's definitely one of

1208
00:50:06,580 --> 00:50:04,670
the guys involved he's a Senate staffer

1209
00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:06,590
hopefully it makes it actually in front

1210
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:08,990
of the Senate you know which be amazing

1211
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:12,290
yeah well he's on the Democratic side as

1212
00:50:19,210 --> 00:50:14,960
well he's uh I'm not sure exactly how it

1213
00:50:21,970 --> 00:50:19,220
works but I think each side can appoint

1214
00:50:24,210 --> 00:50:21,980
staffers and they basically work for

1215
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,220
whoever the Democrat senators are

1216
00:50:28,990 --> 00:50:26,720
Congress yeah our representatives as

1217
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:29,000
well on the house side but I think

1218
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:35,170
yeah that's really cool and and I'm well

1219
00:50:40,330 --> 00:50:37,370
if it kind of fit in with that

1220
00:50:41,980 --> 00:50:40,340
congressional record note as well um if

1221
00:50:45,820 --> 00:50:41,990
that had something to do with the Kirk

1222
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:45,830
McConnell and his people you know and

1223
00:50:50,650 --> 00:50:47,410
you know more of this stuff comes out I

1224
00:50:53,470 --> 00:50:50,660
I just can't see how it it's not gonna

1225
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,480
be seriously looked at you know and even

1226
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:56,240
if they do devise another program I

1227
00:50:59,020 --> 00:50:57,890
don't think we're necessarily gonna get

1228
00:51:01,150 --> 00:50:59,030
an announcement on the New York Times

1229
00:51:04,270 --> 00:51:01,160
again saying hey the government's there

1230
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:04,280
could be one put together right now that

1231
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:05,690
we that we just don't know about you

1232
00:51:09,610 --> 00:51:08,210
know that's a that's a new one they're

1233
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:09,620
not gonna announce it when they create

1234
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:10,850
the program because they're gonna want

1235
00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:14,000
to you know protect the study yeah the

1236
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:16,160
the Korbel comment was interesting the

1237
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:19,280
for other groups or for other programs I

1238
00:51:22,990 --> 00:51:21,530
kind of wondered and maybe he made a

1239
00:51:25,630 --> 00:51:23,000
more clear and I just didn't get it but

1240
00:51:28,540 --> 00:51:25,640
a you know are they ongoing now or are

1241
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:28,550
we talking about previous ones or we

1242
00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:31,760
just don't know yeah that's something I

1243
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:33,320
was kind of trying to figure out too he

1244
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:35,330
said that there were other programs that

1245
00:51:38,740 --> 00:51:37,370
are that might see the light of day and

1246
00:51:43,150 --> 00:51:38,750
he's you know he's pretty sure on that

1247
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:43,160
deep and God no do you guys see this a

1248
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:45,290
just when I see Carvel and nap it's

1249
00:51:49,540 --> 00:51:46,970
every interview they do with specific

1250
00:51:51,310 --> 00:51:49,550
show some shells they'll keep it very

1251
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:51,320
generic like on coast to coast George

1252
00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:52,490
will keep it very generic when he's

1253
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:54,260
interviewed by nori but on other shows

1254
00:51:59,380 --> 00:51:57,050
you have to listen because every time

1255
00:52:00,550 --> 00:51:59,390
you listen they add something new that

1256
00:52:01,930 --> 00:52:00,560
they didn't talk about before and I

1257
00:52:04,030 --> 00:52:01,940
think that's on purpose it's kind of

1258
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:04,040
like a slow release so they have new

1259
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:05,450
stuff to talk about and people get

1260
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:07,010
interested and they keep their interests

1261
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:09,170
and I actually like that that's why I

1262
00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:10,640
was like I can't miss this interview

1263
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:13,250
because I don't know what hahaha I did

1264
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:14,090
get a hit

1265
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:16,310
ma over and coast-to-coast awhile back

1266
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:17,810
and I did get the question too haven't

1267
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,000
got an answer to which was great that

1268
00:52:26,410 --> 00:52:22,640
either a tip or AA SAP he's not sure

1269
00:52:29,470 --> 00:52:26,420
which but one of those projects did

1270
00:52:30,940 --> 00:52:29,480
investigate the Stephenville case which

1271
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:30,950
i think is really interesting I'm a case

1272
00:52:35,050 --> 00:52:33,110
junky from way back so I'm fascinated

1273
00:52:36,940 --> 00:52:35,060
with that case and that was the biggest

1274
00:52:39,490 --> 00:52:36,950
case that happened while a tip was

1275
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:39,500
operational and I did want to pin that

1276
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:41,810
down and we do know that now I'll take

1277
00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:43,910
nap is a good source on that they did

1278
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:46,550
take a look at the at the Stephenville

1279
00:52:51,310 --> 00:52:49,130
case and I do notice that the two cases

1280
00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:51,320
that are out a little bit through t TSA

1281
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:53,390
the Nimitz case and then the East Coast

1282
00:52:59,590 --> 00:52:56,960
case from 2015 I believe we're both out

1283
00:53:01,420 --> 00:52:59,600
over the ocean and I'm not sure why but

1284
00:53:02,380 --> 00:53:01,430
they don't seem to want to play up the

1285
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:02,390
fact that they didn't look at

1286
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:04,730
Stephenville and I love that case I just

1287
00:53:09,070 --> 00:53:07,310
think it's a fantastic case didn't

1288
00:53:10,540 --> 00:53:09,080
didn't he ask you this under about that

1289
00:53:12,370 --> 00:53:10,550
too or am i miss remembering but I

1290
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:12,380
thought he asked him about it and that

1291
00:53:17,140 --> 00:53:15,260
was one of or maybe I'm confusing it

1292
00:53:18,550 --> 00:53:17,150
with the skinwalker comment one of those

1293
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:18,560
he asked he was andhe he said did you

1294
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:19,940
look at this and then he was honored I

1295
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:22,250
said yes and he didn't elaborate at all

1296
00:53:25,780 --> 00:53:23,810
he just said yeah yeah if that did

1297
00:53:26,580 --> 00:53:25,790
happen I missed it maybe that was for

1298
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:26,590
skinwalker

1299
00:53:31,150 --> 00:53:29,510
it could be could be as far as I know

1300
00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:31,160
that was one that I really wanted to

1301
00:53:34,420 --> 00:53:32,630
find out about like what was a really

1302
00:53:36,430 --> 00:53:34,430
good case that happened while these guys

1303
00:53:39,310 --> 00:53:36,440
were up and running and that was the

1304
00:53:41,620 --> 00:53:39,320
case and it's it's a really good case

1305
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:41,630
because when I first got into this it

1306
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:43,370
was just kind of dying down and it

1307
00:53:46,990 --> 00:53:44,690
already happened when I get into the

1308
00:53:49,270 --> 00:53:47,000
seriously but man there was a lot of

1309
00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:49,280
chatter about it back in that still it

1310
00:53:52,210 --> 00:53:51,110
was a 2008 case but there was still a

1311
00:53:54,310 --> 00:53:52,220
lot going on with it

1312
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:54,320
a lot of new stuff coming out back in

1313
00:53:59,950 --> 00:53:56,450
2009 when I first got serious about all

1314
00:54:01,600 --> 00:53:59,960
this and then one of the right didn't

1315
00:54:03,550 --> 00:54:01,610
they follow one of the radar tracks they

1316
00:54:05,530 --> 00:54:03,560
were able to get was shown that one of

1317
00:54:07,390 --> 00:54:05,540
the craft headed towards george w bush's

1318
00:54:09,820 --> 00:54:07,400
ranch is that true Frank uh

1319
00:54:11,710 --> 00:54:09,830
I don't know it was headed towards it

1320
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:11,720
but Erath County is pretty close to

1321
00:54:15,940 --> 00:54:14,240
where Bush lived I think he was in

1322
00:54:17,650 --> 00:54:15,950
Crawford County which might be the next

1323
00:54:20,410 --> 00:54:17,660
county over I'd have to look at a map

1324
00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:20,420
again but they did Robert Powell and

1325
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:23,060
Glen Schultz with they were working for

1326
00:54:27,630 --> 00:54:26,570
MUFON now they were able to file a for

1327
00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,640
you and get

1328
00:54:31,410 --> 00:54:29,680
the radar reports from the area I guess

1329
00:54:33,749 --> 00:54:31,420
so they had some multiple witnesses at

1330
00:54:36,359 --> 00:54:33,759
multiple locations seeing something that

1331
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:36,369
very big and very fast and apparently

1332
00:54:41,489 --> 00:54:38,410
they got a radar return of something

1333
00:54:44,130 --> 00:54:41,499
that had a wingspan maybe up to a little

1334
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:44,140
over 500 feet and was traveling at 2,000

1335
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:47,650
miles an hour so that that on radar that

1336
00:55:01,490 --> 00:54:57,650
now it was yet another case where I was

1337
00:55:03,860 --> 00:55:01,500
right by it and I missed it I was in DFW

1338
00:55:05,660 --> 00:55:03,870
and that was going on you know like an

1339
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:05,670
hour and a half away from me I was and

1340
00:55:13,340 --> 00:55:08,010
then in the 90s I was in Tucson when the

1341
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:13,350
Phoenix lights were happening yeah did

1342
00:55:17,150 --> 00:55:15,300
you get to see anything no I know I've

1343
00:55:19,460 --> 00:55:17,160
never seen anything though supposedly

1344
00:55:20,810 --> 00:55:19,470
the mothership flew right up the freeway

1345
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:20,820
where I was like right next to the

1346
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:23,040
freeway if only I was outside cheese

1347
00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:24,300
yeah

1348
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:25,980
did you know anybody who got to see

1349
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:28,710
anything um you know not directly yeah

1350
00:55:33,770 --> 00:55:32,250
it became such a huge story I'm sure if

1351
00:55:35,060 --> 00:55:33,780
I tracked down it would have been like a

1352
00:55:37,070 --> 00:55:35,070
friend of a friend of a friend or

1353
00:55:39,470 --> 00:55:37,080
something but not I don't really have

1354
00:55:41,060 --> 00:55:39,480
any cool stories about it but being in

1355
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:41,070
Arizona at the time it was nuts I mean

1356
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:43,710
it made worldwide news but especially in

1357
00:55:47,420 --> 00:55:46,110
Arizona it was like a huge deal and most

1358
00:55:50,950 --> 00:55:47,430
even though was a big deal out here in

1359
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:50,960
Texas too yeah I remember that well that

1360
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:53,610
that was a fun case I mean a lot of good

1361
00:55:57,410 --> 00:55:55,770
witnesses came forward on the civilian

1362
00:55:59,300 --> 00:55:57,420
side but that we really don't have

1363
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:59,310
anything yet too much from the military

1364
00:56:04,460 --> 00:56:01,440
side and that's why I was really curious

1365
00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:04,470
about it you know I'm glad I found it it

1366
00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:05,640
was more or less the answer that I

1367
00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:07,380
expected but it's nice to get

1368
00:56:14,420 --> 00:56:08,940
confirmation from a source as good as

1369
00:56:16,550 --> 00:56:14,430
George Knapp you know go ahead I have a

1370
00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:16,560
question for Jay but let's finish this

1371
00:56:20,990 --> 00:56:18,660
it's it's on another topic so I go ahead

1372
00:56:22,790 --> 00:56:21,000
Jay I'm sorry no I was just gonna say

1373
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:22,800
it's you know talking about the cases

1374
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:24,450
you know it was interesting that both

1375
00:56:29,990 --> 00:56:26,970
Chris melon and Jeremy Korbel had

1376
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:30,000
mentioned that on the East Coast in 2015

1377
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:32,000
alone that there were over a dozen

1378
00:56:38,690 --> 00:56:37,290
tic-tac type incidents you know and of

1379
00:56:40,910 --> 00:56:38,700
course I was speculated that we might

1380
00:56:45,050 --> 00:56:40,920
get some of the data in january/february

1381
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:45,060
go ahead I was getting Jay his his

1382
00:56:50,210 --> 00:56:47,400
theory that a lot of this stuff is

1383
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:50,220
crypto terrestrial do you think maybe

1384
00:56:55,850 --> 00:56:52,530
they have a lot to do or at least

1385
00:56:59,840 --> 00:56:55,860
partial to do with acad mutilations

1386
00:57:01,880 --> 00:56:59,850
check in the environment yeah I think so

1387
00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:01,890
I mean obviously I can't I don't I don't

1388
00:57:05,450 --> 00:57:03,630
know anything I can't speak in absolute

1389
00:57:07,820 --> 00:57:05,460
terms about any of it but I would hazard

1390
00:57:09,579 --> 00:57:07,830
a guess that yeah I mean they must be

1391
00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:09,589
looking at biological tissue

1392
00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:12,540
you know kind of matter material and all

1393
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:14,700
that kind of stuff so presumably that's

1394
00:57:18,170 --> 00:57:16,650
why they would be performing cattle

1395
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:18,180
mutilations but you know obviously I

1396
00:57:22,339 --> 00:57:20,160
don't I don't have any kind of inside

1397
00:57:24,260 --> 00:57:22,349
information about it right that would be

1398
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:24,270
the that's how I would imagine they

1399
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:26,880
would be what there'd be interested in

1400
00:57:29,539 --> 00:57:28,170
they would come here they would look at

1401
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:29,549
different plants and look at different

1402
00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:31,710
animals they look at the humans for

1403
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:33,720
whatever reason they don't seem to bear

1404
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:35,609
if then hurt people as far as you

1405
00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:36,930
understand I think there's been a few

1406
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:38,430
cases in the past where people have been

1407
00:57:41,809 --> 00:57:40,530
mutilated I think they had all that

1408
00:57:43,730 --> 00:57:41,819
blood drained and you know horrible

1409
00:57:46,099 --> 00:57:43,740
things happen to them but I think it's a

1410
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:46,109
very very rare thing quite the reason

1411
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:49,170
why I have no idea but it's quite

1412
00:57:53,890 --> 00:57:50,609
interesting you know I don't there's a

1413
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:53,900
fully connection between near-death

1414
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:56,880
experiences as well and some of these

1415
00:58:00,890 --> 00:57:58,650
other environments were some of these

1416
00:58:02,539 --> 00:58:00,900
things the other whatever you want to

1417
00:58:04,190 --> 00:58:02,549
call it is coming from there might be

1418
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:04,200
some sort of a connection there but I

1419
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:06,329
you know can i I'm just kind of

1420
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:08,490
hypothesis hypothesizing really forth

1421
00:58:14,359 --> 00:58:12,089
and Knapp mr. Knapp recently said also

1422
00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:14,369
in that same interview that I guess was

1423
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:17,220
bass or maybe was awesome I think it was

1424
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:20,609
best we're working with other friendly

1425
00:58:25,250 --> 00:58:22,530
governments around the world and one of

1426
00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:25,260
them was Brazil and one and that was in

1427
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:27,540
regards to klaris Island which there was

1428
00:58:31,549 --> 00:58:29,880
injuries there which is and that's just

1429
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:31,559
kind of though one of the big examples

1430
00:58:37,630 --> 00:58:33,450
we point to when we're thinking about

1431
00:58:39,740 --> 00:58:37,640
injuries like injuries go ahead sorry

1432
00:58:42,140 --> 00:58:39,750
sorry is gonna said is that there's a

1433
00:58:44,299 --> 00:58:42,150
place I think is in Norway or Denmark or

1434
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:44,309
something like that well there's the

1435
00:58:50,150 --> 00:58:46,950
right that's the one yeah yeah that's in

1436
00:58:51,500 --> 00:58:50,160
Norway Norway got it yeah

1437
00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,510
well I sort of northern European

1438
00:58:54,380 --> 00:58:53,040
countries yeah they seem to have these

1439
00:58:58,460 --> 00:58:54,390
lights that happen I think it's a

1440
00:59:00,020 --> 00:58:58,470
similar kind of situation to skinwalker

1441
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,030
ranch but I don't think people get hurt

1442
00:59:16,030 --> 00:59:01,680
as far as I'm aware they just kind of

1443
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:19,520
unfortunately well they you're you

1444
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:21,450
you're closest J so you got to get over

1445
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:31,609
J travel pits J travel in Norway is like

1446
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:42,510
me traveling to Pittsburgh area no one

1447
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:45,780
had posited that you know that these

1448
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:48,930
these could be different phenomenon and

1449
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:51,359
they're different you know just like

1450
00:59:55,549 --> 00:59:53,609
we're different as people and you know

1451
00:59:58,609 --> 00:59:55,559
some people have been that the negative

1452
01:00:00,410 --> 00:59:58,619
encounters might just be encountering

1453
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:00,420
and never negative aspect of the

1454
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:03,119
phenomenon but a question I wanted is J

1455
01:00:10,549 --> 01:00:06,089
is for the the crypto intelligence would

1456
01:00:12,859 --> 01:00:10,559
you think that is technological I think

1457
01:00:15,260 --> 01:00:12,869
it would have to be yes if they're kind

1458
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:15,270
of coming through into our environment I

1459
01:00:19,339 --> 01:00:17,490
don't know whether it's technology in

1460
01:00:21,530 --> 01:00:19,349
the way that we have it it might be some

1461
01:00:25,940 --> 01:00:21,540
manifestation in a different kind of way

1462
01:00:27,620 --> 01:00:25,950
that that's kind of where is going cuz

1463
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:27,630
you know different people I said like

1464
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,089
dr. Greer says you know they can

1465
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:32,400
manifest things through advanced

1466
01:00:37,579 --> 01:00:34,530
consciousness and that's why some of the

1467
01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:37,589
materials and everything are so pure and

1468
01:00:43,460 --> 01:00:40,680
seamless because their technology is so

1469
01:00:47,410 --> 01:00:43,470
advanced that they can just manifest it

1470
01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:47,420
somehow I guess there's some kind of

1471
01:00:51,260 --> 01:00:49,500
augmented consciousness but they'd have

1472
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:51,270
to have be using some materials I would

1473
01:00:56,839 --> 01:00:55,200
think but affected the whole mind being

1474
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:56,849
fundamental and that would suggest that

1475
01:01:01,280 --> 01:00:58,170
they can manifest them that way

1476
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:01,290
potentially but you know it's ya can

1477
01:01:03,859 --> 01:01:02,609
only kind of guess at this stuff what

1478
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:03,869
you were saying earlier about some of

1479
01:01:07,609 --> 01:01:05,280
them being good something and being bad

1480
01:01:08,809 --> 01:01:07,619
I think it makes perfect sense you know

1481
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:08,819
if you were to get some sort of

1482
01:01:12,349 --> 01:01:11,010
intelligence come to earth and they were

1483
01:01:14,180 --> 01:01:12,359
to look at people they were to look at

1484
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:14,190
people generally you would probably

1485
01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:17,089
assume humans are bad you know they kill

1486
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:19,079
lots of different things they kill each

1487
01:01:22,490 --> 01:01:20,970
other they're constantly killing you

1488
01:01:24,650 --> 01:01:22,500
know there's lots of bloodshed lots of

1489
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:24,660
killing so let's just assume that's all

1490
01:01:29,140 --> 01:01:27,359
bad but the rich you know the reality of

1491
01:01:31,819 --> 01:01:29,150
the case is it's completely different

1492
01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:31,829
there's lots of pretty good people in a

1493
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:33,270
50/50 something like that you've got

1494
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:34,710
some really wonderful people got some

1495
01:01:38,030 --> 01:01:35,910
really bad people

1496
01:01:39,890 --> 01:01:38,040
so I think the same would be true for

1497
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,900
any kind of other intelligence that's

1498
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:41,520
probably bound to be good parts to it

1499
01:01:45,650 --> 01:01:43,170
and bad parts to it whether or not

1500
01:01:47,660 --> 01:01:45,660
they're parts of the same thing I don't

1501
01:01:49,849 --> 01:01:47,670
know whether or not this sort of good

1502
01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:49,859
thing which is a different thing to the

1503
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:52,260
bad thing which is kind of what the

1504
01:01:55,460 --> 01:01:53,849
Bible says you know got the good and bad

1505
01:01:57,319 --> 01:01:55,470
angels I think I don't know whether

1506
01:01:59,359 --> 01:01:57,329
that's that place apart or whether it's

1507
01:02:02,930 --> 01:01:59,369
all one thing you know what I mean yeah

1508
01:02:06,260 --> 01:02:02,940
ya know exactly it makes a lot of sense

1509
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:06,270
you know in one of the older interviews

1510
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:09,510
with the ranch owner Terry Sherman he

1511
01:02:15,740 --> 01:02:11,970
said that when they moved their cattle

1512
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:15,750
to a certain certain area really close

1513
01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:17,010
to that to the house where they were

1514
01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:18,809
living there the mutilations didn't

1515
01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:20,640
happen they never lost one cow which is

1516
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:22,950
really odd to me have you guys have you

1517
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:24,510
guys anybody hurt anybody else talk

1518
01:02:27,770 --> 01:02:26,010
about that it was just a one interview

1519
01:02:32,809 --> 01:02:27,780
he did with Linda Moulton Howe back I

1520
01:02:34,819 --> 01:02:32,819
think it was 96 I've not heard that yeah

1521
01:02:37,130 --> 01:02:34,829
and I was like really so whatever is

1522
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:37,140
causing it was not able to do a

1523
01:02:43,099 --> 01:02:38,970
mutilation if the cattle were close to

1524
01:02:45,770 --> 01:02:43,109
the house it's really odd yes someone if

1525
01:02:48,349 --> 01:02:45,780
it's being observed something like that

1526
01:02:50,329 --> 01:02:48,359
you know he's easily be seen maybe good

1527
01:02:55,550 --> 01:02:50,339
if want to do the mutilation yeah that's

1528
01:02:59,900 --> 01:02:57,680
well what are we looking at guy going

1529
01:03:02,210 --> 01:02:59,910
forward there fellas a lot of talk about

1530
01:03:03,980 --> 01:03:02,220
we're gonna get there some significant

1531
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:03,990
data drops after the first of the year

1532
01:03:08,330 --> 01:03:05,970
after the midterms wrap-up and maybe

1533
01:03:10,460 --> 01:03:08,340
after the holidays this year is that

1534
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:10,470
about what everybody else is hearing at

1535
01:03:17,660 --> 01:03:12,570
top of the year we'll start getting some

1536
01:03:21,470 --> 01:03:17,670
more stuff and a big volume yeah yeah

1537
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:21,480
you know we have we're hearing about new

1538
01:03:25,460 --> 01:03:23,250
videos coming out that's one thing

1539
01:03:27,620 --> 01:03:25,470
that's being speculated by the MUFON guy

1540
01:03:30,350 --> 01:03:27,630
saying that Elizondo had said I think

1541
01:03:31,940 --> 01:03:30,360
that there might be some more videos

1542
01:03:35,570 --> 01:03:31,950
coming out that are even better and

1543
01:03:38,870 --> 01:03:35,580
clearer than the go-fast gimble and

1544
01:03:41,660 --> 01:03:38,880
tic-tac videos that's one thing no they

1545
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:41,670
exist as well we know comments from

1546
01:03:48,620 --> 01:03:42,960
favor and all these other people so they

1547
01:03:50,660 --> 01:03:48,630
do exist but we'll see them you know

1548
01:03:53,330 --> 01:03:50,670
that melon leaked as well they had four

1549
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:53,340
CDs presumably at least three of them

1550
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:55,110
would have been full of data you know

1551
01:03:58,610 --> 01:03:57,450
unless they're copying different parts

1552
01:04:00,470 --> 01:03:58,620
of different things you know one might

1553
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:00,480
be stream Walker ranch or one might be

1554
01:04:04,190 --> 01:04:02,400
the Nimitz incident on one CD I don't

1555
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:04,200
know how they sort of do this stuff but

1556
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:05,730
there's gonna be you know you talk about

1557
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:07,710
having six to seven hundred megabytes

1558
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:09,570
each one of those discs each one of

1559
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:10,650
those videos that they've released

1560
01:04:15,050 --> 01:04:13,110
through about nine Meg in size you get

1561
01:04:16,130 --> 01:04:15,060
hundreds of those videos and they could

1562
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:16,140
have been blu-rays they could win

1563
01:04:29,180 --> 01:04:25,770
blu-rays so no but so we also have the

1564
01:04:33,140 --> 01:04:29,190
the project atom materials were you know

1565
01:04:35,390 --> 01:04:33,150
a few people had said that come around

1566
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:35,400
December January February there's going

1567
01:04:39,830 --> 01:04:37,890
to be an initial announcement about it

1568
01:04:41,450 --> 01:04:39,840
you know talking about whatever progress

1569
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:41,460
there is or you know some kind of Ted

1570
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:43,650
bit of information that's progressive

1571
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:46,530
I'm talking about that study I had also

1572
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:49,440
heard that somebody from somebody close

1573
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:52,770
to TTS a that's loosely affiliated with

1574
01:04:57,980 --> 01:04:54,690
them I guess you could say they're a

1575
01:05:00,290 --> 01:04:57,990
friend of Tom's he had also confirmed

1576
01:05:02,660 --> 01:05:00,300
that to me and now Knapp has said it so

1577
01:05:06,650 --> 01:05:02,670
I think that's something that we have to

1578
01:05:09,319 --> 01:05:06,660
look forward to for sure and these the

1579
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:09,329
materials that jockle a and gary norms

1580
01:05:15,709 --> 01:05:13,249
looking at that is also coming out

1581
01:05:18,709 --> 01:05:15,719
sometime next year there's going to be a

1582
01:05:20,959 --> 01:05:18,719
paper on it and there's also going to be

1583
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:20,969
a peer review paper on this antenna

1584
01:05:30,579 --> 01:05:26,400
stuff in fact Gary Nolan is giving a

1585
01:05:35,660 --> 01:05:30,589
presentation in a few weeks to an

1586
01:05:38,420 --> 01:05:35,670
extremely prestigious University it's

1587
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:38,430
pretty shocking actually and the way he

1588
01:05:41,180 --> 01:05:40,049
kind of got leaked into it was that he

1589
01:05:43,039 --> 01:05:41,190
was speaking to somebody from that

1590
01:05:46,130 --> 01:05:43,049
university and they were open to these

1591
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:46,140
concepts and ideas but the way it's

1592
01:05:51,529 --> 01:05:47,930
gonna be presented to the University

1593
01:05:54,799 --> 01:05:51,539
he's not gonna be talking about the

1594
01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,809
phenomenon and and extraterrestrials or

1595
01:05:58,880 --> 01:05:56,400
anything like that but it's going to be

1596
01:06:01,009 --> 01:05:58,890
presented in an in a way of you know

1597
01:06:02,749 --> 01:06:01,019
talking about the antenna so there's

1598
01:06:06,499 --> 01:06:02,759
going to be something on that put out as

1599
01:06:09,140 --> 01:06:06,509
well as well as the papers so that's um

1600
01:06:10,999 --> 01:06:09,150
that's another big thing that's going to

1601
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:11,009
happen next year and it seems for

1602
01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:13,410
certain and there's been some really big

1603
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:15,900
foreshadowing from you lizand oh and

1604
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:18,089
he's usually to me is usually really

1605
01:06:23,299 --> 01:06:20,130
reserved so when he does before

1606
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:23,309
shadowing stuff I get excited like he

1607
01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:24,690
said you know the conversation would

1608
01:06:29,479 --> 01:06:26,249
change in the next year he said that at

1609
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:29,489
the MUFON conference so that was a big

1610
01:06:33,650 --> 01:06:31,440
comment from him I think and then also

1611
01:06:35,630 --> 01:06:33,660
on coast to coast he was talking to

1612
01:06:37,370 --> 01:06:35,640
George Knapp and he was saying he was

1613
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:37,380
talking about the fleet that is

1614
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:39,930
mentioned and he said you know that none

1615
01:06:44,209 --> 01:06:41,849
of that would come out from him but to

1616
01:06:46,219 --> 01:06:44,219
me it was kind of seemed like he was

1617
01:06:48,799 --> 01:06:46,229
alluding that maybe we would get another

1618
01:06:49,759 --> 01:06:48,809
drop from the Pentagon on that like I

1619
01:06:52,370 --> 01:06:49,769
don't know if that's the case these are

1620
01:06:55,130 --> 01:06:52,380
just all options but for him to really

1621
01:06:57,739 --> 01:06:55,140
focus on the fleet like that it just it

1622
01:06:59,719 --> 01:06:57,749
to me it was equivalent he said that

1623
01:07:01,339 --> 01:06:59,729
that well I don't remember exact words

1624
01:07:04,279 --> 01:07:01,349
he said it would be an aha moment if the

1625
01:07:06,319 --> 01:07:04,289
details of the gimbal come out and all

1626
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:06,329
we need is just one of the gimbal pilots

1627
01:07:10,009 --> 01:07:08,130
just one willing to talk and just tell

1628
01:07:11,930 --> 01:07:10,019
us exactly what happened and I know

1629
01:07:14,029 --> 01:07:11,940
there were other other engagements

1630
01:07:16,069 --> 01:07:14,039
supposedly but just one would be amazing

1631
01:07:18,829 --> 01:07:16,079
to see because then we could put that

1632
01:07:21,019 --> 01:07:18,839
put to rest the mick west argument that

1633
01:07:22,790 --> 01:07:21,029
they were chasing a plane it's like if

1634
01:07:24,260 --> 01:07:22,800
we know what happened in the rest of the

1635
01:07:26,030 --> 01:07:24,270
engagement we can you know we could say

1636
01:07:27,650 --> 01:07:26,040
sorry that did not happen they caught up

1637
01:07:29,660 --> 01:07:27,660
to her or they couldn't catch up to it

1638
01:07:31,690 --> 01:07:29,670
or what else happened yeah

1639
01:07:33,940 --> 01:07:31,700
and Melinda Leslie says that she has

1640
01:07:36,650 --> 01:07:33,950
suppose allegedly the some of these

1641
01:07:39,140 --> 01:07:36,660
witnesses from some East Coast go faster

1642
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:39,150
gimbal event and you know we're hearing

1643
01:07:44,450 --> 01:07:42,090
rumors about maybe some of these other

1644
01:07:46,580 --> 01:07:44,460
witnesses from in other ways being

1645
01:07:48,700 --> 01:07:46,590
talked into coming forward so that kind

1646
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:48,710
of sounds like it's coming I know yeah

1647
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:50,640
yeah I would definitely like to know

1648
01:07:53,780 --> 01:07:52,050
more about that case that looks like a

1649
01:07:57,410 --> 01:07:53,790
good case as well I've already got

1650
01:07:59,450 --> 01:07:57,420
Nimitz up in my top 10 all-time so but

1651
01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:59,460
there's room for more you know and we

1652
01:08:04,310 --> 01:08:01,920
should get the SCU report on the tic-tac

1653
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:04,320
which is supposed to be a huge report as

1654
01:08:08,450 --> 01:08:06,240
far as pages that should be coming any

1655
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:08,460
day now in the next couple of days a

1656
01:08:12,500 --> 01:08:10,110
couple of weeks so I'm really looking

1657
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:12,510
forward to that and the James Fox UFO

1658
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:14,730
documentary with Lee Spiegel as one of

1659
01:08:17,809 --> 01:08:16,290
the producers that's supposed to be

1660
01:08:19,789 --> 01:08:17,819
coming out soon - I'm not exactly sure

1661
01:08:21,590 --> 01:08:19,799
that he mentioned the month but I forget

1662
01:08:23,570 --> 01:08:21,600
I think it might have been this fall and

1663
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:23,580
hopefully he may have some amazing stuff

1664
01:08:28,849 --> 01:08:26,880
from there - well sobs eroding yeah

1665
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:28,859
they're toting that they did they did a

1666
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:32,970
talk on the podcast UFO right and they

1667
01:08:37,340 --> 01:08:34,560
were they were making some serious

1668
01:08:39,740 --> 01:08:37,350
claims and this is going to be a pretty

1669
01:08:41,599 --> 01:08:39,750
profound movie and I don't think they're

1670
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:41,609
doing it just like oh we're promoting

1671
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:45,210
the movie no I don't like James Fox and

1672
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:47,010
at least me go you know Lee Spiegel was

1673
01:08:53,210 --> 01:08:50,210
involved with the UN and this topic so

1674
01:08:54,740 --> 01:08:53,220
you know there there's somebody that you

1675
01:08:56,599 --> 01:08:54,750
know they really want to make a change

1676
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:56,609
in this so I think that we can expect

1677
01:09:04,490 --> 01:09:00,960
some some big stuff in there yeah I

1678
01:09:09,559 --> 01:09:04,500
can't wait I'm sorry guys I'm gonna have

1679
01:09:12,740 --> 01:09:09,569
to drop off okay I was gonna say - I you

1680
01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:12,750
know I got a cut out soon - okay maybe

1681
01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:15,600
you want to wrap this up Frank uh yeah

1682
01:09:21,230 --> 01:09:17,670
we can wrap this out any final words

1683
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,240
from anybody before we do uh you know I

1684
01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:23,040
just want to say I'm you know I'm so

1685
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:26,940
happy that we we got this done I I love

1686
01:09:31,490 --> 01:09:29,130
our Twitter circle you know I think we

1687
01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:31,500
have great camaraderie and we share some

1688
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:33,510
great information together and you know

1689
01:09:36,590 --> 01:09:35,010
peace different information together and

1690
01:09:37,730 --> 01:09:36,600
kind of put out these different ideas so

1691
01:09:39,730 --> 01:09:37,740
you know thank you guys so much for

1692
01:09:41,900 --> 01:09:39,740
doing all the work that you do and

1693
01:09:44,270 --> 01:09:41,910
putting the information out and sharing

1694
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:44,280
the information and for coming on here

1695
01:09:48,650 --> 01:09:46,770
are two in discussing with us it's been

1696
01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:48,660
a lot of fun I really like you guys I

1697
01:09:53,150 --> 01:09:50,460
really hold you guys in hold regard high

1698
01:09:58,340 --> 01:09:53,160
regards and man this it's been a real

1699
01:10:03,590 --> 01:09:58,350
fun talk corner handles again I'm at a

1700
01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:03,600
UFO Sunday James which were engaging the

1701
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:07,140
phenomenon ok easy enough to find J you

1702
01:10:15,710 --> 01:10:08,970
want to go ahead and give your Twitter

1703
01:10:21,260 --> 01:10:15,720
with all the numbers again are you

1704
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:21,270
already says J 0 9 7 8 4 6 9 1 got it

1705
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:24,000
okay and I'm following you now over on

1706
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:26,130
Twitter uh Jo mirja you want to give

1707
01:10:33,070 --> 01:10:29,730
your Twitter handle it's UFO Jo 1-1 and

1708
01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,080
the website is UFO Jo dotnet got it and

1709
01:10:37,780 --> 01:10:35,520
Danny you want to go with your Twitter

1710
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:37,790
handle my twitter handle is silva record

1711
01:10:43,970 --> 01:10:42,450
Silv a re Co Rd and that'll be also the

1712
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:43,980
name of the website as soon as it

1713
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:46,290
launches there we go okay so we got all

1714
01:10:50,540 --> 01:10:48,930
our Twitter handles out there then any

1715
01:10:53,690 --> 01:10:50,550
final words from anybody any final

1716
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:53,700
thoughts but I say thank you so much for

1717
01:10:56,060 --> 01:10:55,140
sitting the suttas it's been incredible

1718
01:11:03,590 --> 01:10:56,070
man I really love you guys

1719
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:03,600
yeah yeah Danny's a man we're gonna be

1720
01:11:07,510 --> 01:11:04,890
doing it we got to do this again we'll

1721
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:07,520
do this again some time to put together

1722
01:11:12,530 --> 01:11:10,530
kind of a quick and dirty but we got

1723
01:11:14,780 --> 01:11:12,540
everybody in that we can handle three

1724
01:11:16,940 --> 01:11:14,790
guests at one time plus me and James so

1725
01:11:18,170 --> 01:11:16,950
we set a new record here in terms of the

1726
01:11:21,710 --> 01:11:18,180
most people we've ever had on the show

1727
01:11:23,690 --> 01:11:21,720
this was fantastic and I'm gonna wrap it

1728
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:23,700
up a goodbye from Philly yeah this is

1729
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:27,570
Frank stalter here and James I'm out of

1730
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:28,570
here - thank you everybody

1731
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,410
[Laughter]

1732
01:11:34,820 --> 01:11:32,880
have a nice evening everybody have a

1733
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:34,830
good one man thanks for tuning in how

1734
01:11:38,210 --> 01:11:36,570
James out we've got some good guests

1735
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:38,220
coming up don't we I know you can't tell

1736
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:40,410
ya too much about oh yeah we here we got